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Groupings or patterns of signs | 17 comments (17 topical, editorial, 0 pending)
glyphs ter bis ( none / 0 ) (#17)
by LSmerillo (kajamanu@rdn.it) on Sun Jun 2nd, 2002 at 04:03:23 EDT
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There is a very interesting little passage (329) in Al-Biruni (1029 CE) The Book of Instruction in the elements of the art of astrology (trans R. Ramsey Wright) on glyphs.

"The back of the astrolobe sometimes has the terms or limits of the planets, the faces and triplicities engraved on it; if there is room also the names of the planets, while these are generally indicated by the Greek marks (h) Saturn, (2j) Jupiter, [etc.]... The Hindus, however, use the initials of the their names for them."

There follows a table with the glyphs copied from several Arabic and Persian MSS of the text, dating from 1270-1700. Venus hooked does not appear. What I took to be a boomerang in PGM VII. 795-845 is in fact here a lunar crescent. Venus is represented in 1286 and 1626 as it is today, but in 1282 the subscript cross is a downward pointing three pronged affair, in 1700 it is two diagonal lines.

This is all very interesting but does not further the issue. Rather we have more evidence of a scriptoria tradition, used apparently also on astrolobes, with variants both by the Greek and the Arabic and Persian copists and instrument makers. So mythology is definitely a non-starter.

But what is really interesting is the comment that the marks are 'of the Greeks,' thus we have a terminus ante quem for these of 1082. I do not have a text of Mâ'shâ'a allah (9th cent.) to check what he wrote about astrolabes. The earliest surviving Islamic astrolabe dates from 927/8 CE.

And it is interesting too that 'the Hindus use the inital letters of [the] names,' which means that they are following a development of the generally recognised practice of Greek astrologers who brought the craft to them-- before the marks were invented, that is to write out the names as words.

feliciter,

Lorenzo Smerillo


88 constellations ( none / 0 ) (#5)
by Rab (rab@peterboro.net) on Wed May 29th, 2002 at 23:34:39 EDT
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CONSTELLATIONS
88 Keys

*The Higher Pennant:

 I The CASTLE & II The QUEST

  ARI: Heroes  TAU: Heroines IMMORTALS
  GEM: Regalia CNC: Vessel   TREASURES
  LEO: Arts    VIR: Science  TOOLS    

*The Lower Pennant

 III  GREATER  BEASTS & IV LESSER  BEASTS

  LIB: Tame    SCO: Wild     LAND
  SGR: Mythic  CAP: Creepies CHANGERS
  AQR: Birds   PSC: Fish     AIR & SEA

  - 12 Groups of 7 (84), plus 1 for each of the four Orders (suits) = 22 stellia per Order.

  - Order I   The Castle = Major Arcanum (22).
  - Order II  The Quest
  - Order III The Greater Beasts
  - Order IV  The Lesser Beasts

Orders II to IV are comprised of 8 Groups of 7
stellia each = Minor Arcanum (56). However, one
of these Groups includes and extra 3 stellia, the
significators of Orders II - IV. (The 4th
significator belongs to the First Order and is
included as the 22nd Trump of the Major Arcanum).

This special Group of 10 stellia represents the
ten planetary Powers or Spheres. It's "The
Vessel" (Argo Navis +).

FACETS of the SPHERE
Example: Regalia

#  DIR TZ  CON ELM  PLA MTOOL  CON SEFIR  DATE
  1. Sup              Sir        TRI Kether 15Leo
  2. Sup              Nep        DEL Hoxmah 00Cnc
  3. Sup              Ura        MUS Binah  00Ari
  4. Abv:NPE DRA Spt  Sat Crown  CrB Daath  15Aqr
  5. Est:Ari AQR Air  Mer Dagger CRU Hod    00Ari
  6. Nor:Cnc TAU Ert  Ven Shield SCT Netzax 00Cnc
  7. Cnt:mLe CNC Spt  Sun Altar  ARA Tifar  15Leo
  8. Sot:Lib LEO Fire Mar Arrow  SGE Gebura 00Lib
  9. Wst:Cap SCO Watr Jup Grail  CRT Xesed  00Cap
  10. Blw:SPE DOR Sprt Mon Throne CrA Yesod  15Aqr
  11.                  Ert         x  Malkut 15Sco
-----------------------------------------------

Alternately, Zodiac plane as the platform within
the Sphere of Space. The signs as compass
directions or azimuths, 0-Aries = East (90). In
which case they (and every degree within them)
can also be grouped mathematically or
harmonically as you wish. But basically in terms
of 4 cardinals, plus the ecliptical poles of
the vertical axis through Center (the observation
or event point, the 1st of the 7 Directions.

Or, Local Space plane plus Zenith & Nadir --
whichever sphere is the focus.

-=Rab

   
http://www.astrocyclics.com


more groupings from the past ( none / 0 ) (#2)
by Ailouros tou Dwdekawrou on Wed May 29th, 2002 at 15:30:49 EDT
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A few more from Teukros:

Fruitful: ca, sc, pi
Kingly: ar, le, sa
Eastern: ar, le, sa
Western: ge, li, aq
Northern: ta, vi, cp
[Southern: ca, sc, pi]

Upright: ca, le, vi, li, sc, sa
Oblique (or Slanted): ca, aq, pi, ar, ta, ge

****

Variant in Aratos:

'Water signs' called: of the sea
'Air signs' called: of the sky

Fire signs:  Southwest wind
Sky signs: Southern wind
Earth signs: Northern wind
Sea signs: Southeast wind

****

Fixed signs are also called Solid.
Masculine and Feminine called positive and negative (polarities) in modern.


  • Groups by Axel Harvey, 05/29/2002 16:11:09 EDT (none / 0)
    • Groupings by Ailouros tou Dwdekawrou, 05/29/2002 19:53:36 EDT (none / 0)
      • Glyphs by Axel Harvey, 05/30/2002 19:44:34 EDT (none / 0)
        • Glyphs by Ailouros tou Dwdekawrou, 05/30/2002 22:40:10 EDT (none / 0)
          • Glyphs 2 by Axel Harvey, 05/31/2002 00:06:30 EDT (none / 0)
            • Glyphs ter by LSmerillo, 05/31/2002 03:49:52 EDT (5.00 / 1)
              • Gluphs by Axel Harvey, 05/31/2002 16:16:09 EDT (none / 0)
              • Glyphs 4 by Axel Harvey, 05/31/2002 09:30:31 EDT (none / 0)
            • brief glyph comment by Ailouros tou Dwdekawrou, 05/31/2002 16:35:23 EDT (none / 0)
Jung's Psychological Types ( none / 0 ) (#1)
by Lenore on Wed May 29th, 2002 at 14:46:03 EDT
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Carl Jung's Psychological Types or Functions are often equated with astrological elements:

Intuitive =  fire signs
Feeling = water signs
Thinking = air signs
Sensation = earth signs

~Lenore


Groupings or patterns of signs | 17 comments (17 topical, 0 editorial, 0 pending)

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