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Sign cusps are shared

Analysis
By Axel Harvey, Section Foundations of Astrology

Posted on Thu Oct 24th, 2002 at 20:42:52 EDT

The following is offered in the spirit of reducing the number of independent assumptions.

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Theorem: sign cusps are shared by two adjacent signs.

Given: (a) 0 degrees of any sign belongs to that sign, and the point 30 degrees therefrom belongs to the next sign;

(b) any point belonging to a sign which begins at 90°-(30*k)°, k integer, has its antiscion in a point belonging to a sign which begins at 60°+(30*k)°; e.g., each point of Aries has its antiscion in a point of Virgo;

(c) points at 90°-x and 90°+x are in antiscion.

Proof: from (c), the points at 90°-(30*k)°+30° and 90°+(30*k)°-30° are in antiscion. The latter is equal to 60°+(30*k)° and so is the first point of the sign in antiscion with that sign whose first point lies at 90°-(30*k)°. Now from (a), 90°-(30*k)°+30° is the first point of the sign next after this; however, by (b) it is also the last point of the sign which begins at 90°-(30*k)°. QED.

Comment: if signs were closed only on their first point, i.e. Aries [0, 30), Taurus [30, 60), Gemini [60, 90), etc., then either the first point of a sign would have no antiscion or else we would say that the first point of Virgo is in antiscion with Taurus, the first point of Leo with Gemini, etc., which we do not. Therefore sign intervals are closed at both ends and cusps are shared.

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abbreviations ( 4.00 / 1 ) (#6)
by Bill Sheeran on Sat Oct 26th, 2002 at 16:34:44 EDT
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If we want a convenient international abbreviating system, signs should be in l.c.

Hi Axel

Fair point. I always use the half-breed version Ar, Ta, Ge, etc. Don't know why. I guess it just seemed the obvious thing a couple of decades ago. It looks grand to my eyes.

I do use all upper case for planet abbreviations though. I think this is probably picked up from midpoint texts. Perhaps the problem you mention doesn't hold in this case, as numbers and letters are rarely mixed in midpoint formulae.

All the best,

Bill



measurment ( 4.00 / 1 ) (#4)
by LSmerillo (kajamanu@rdn.it) on Fri Oct 25th, 2002 at 23:41:34 EDT
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Axel wrote:

"...can do things with infinite divisions of a line that the Greeks failed (or refused) to imagine. And leaving aside the question of whether 2.9999999... is the same as 3.0000000..., we can assume that 3.0000000... exists - with an infinite trail of zeros."

Yes, the problem of imcommensurability in Greek mathematics, see David Fowler, 'The story of the discovery of incommensurability, revisited,' pp.221-235 in K. Gavroglu, J. Christianidis, & E. Nicoliaidis (eds.), Trends in the Historiography of Science, Boston Studies in the Philosophy of Science no. 151, Kluwer, 1994.

The existence of 2.9999999.. or 3.0000000... is not the point. It's simply where do we go with it, as you state,  I still do not see that 30°31" AR is within the parametres of the measurement definition, as legiimate and not as a misnomer for 00°31" TA.

Where we go with it is where we decide it stops.
It's a matter of definition.

By 'trivial' you mean to use the terminus technicus I presume.

feliciter,

Lorenzo Smerillo



cusps ( 4.00 / 1 ) (#1)
by LSmerillo (kajamanu@rdn.it) on Fri Oct 25th, 2002 at 01:34:00 EDT
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Axel, nice work. some comments: Points of measurement have no dimension. Can 2.999999... mm be the same as 3mm? Remember the Greek chap & his arrow. For 3 and 2 read any sign name. At some point one cuts. Is it sensible to speak of 30° AR? What is 30° 31" of AR? feliciter, Lorenzo Smerillo



Thanks ( none / 0 ) (#10)
by risinglucifer on Sun Mar 19th, 2006 at 12:59:16 EDT
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Very informative.



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