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The Other Two 9-11s

Analysis
By Urpaulo, Section Mundane

Posted on Wed Mar 19th, 2003 at 13:11:27 EDT
Some students I talked to around the time of the fire-bombing of the World Trade Centre had no doubt that there was a connection between that event and some other September 11.

Recently I researched the matter and found two interesting instances, the violent overthrow of Salvadore Allende in 1973, and the historic 'New World Order' George H. W. Bush made before Congress in 1990, about three months before the beginning of 1991 Gulf War.

Is there a connection? Possibly, but in my article, I am more interested in the intrinsic features of the charts for these other events.

[A French version of this will appear in the Spring issue of Denise Chrzanowska's Cosmoscope.]

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Besides the `fateful' occurrences of September 11, 2001, in recent history, there were two other events, of historical significance, which occurred on this date.

There has been some speculation, particularly shortly after `9-11', that there might be a connection between it and one of the other incidents.

One of the two was the speech which then-president George H.W. Bush made, on September 11, 1990, before the US congress in which he outlined a vision of a `New World Order'. This speech was made on a date between Iraq's invasion of Kuwait (on August 2, 1990) and the `US led' Gulf War which began during the moonless night of January 16, 1991.

The other, on September 11, 1973, was the overthrow and assassination of Salvadore Allende. [We set the end of the Allende Regime in Chile for 1:33:46 PM AST at Santiago, Chile. This is the time that troops, with the aid of aeroplanes, tanks and helicopters were finally able to penetrate to the `inner courtyard' of the Presidential Palace. Allende died about at this moment, reportedly from a self-administered gunshot wound after he had sent all his allies away. See http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB8/ch21-03.htm and http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/ciachile.htm for documentation.]

It may be important to note that transiting sun is around the 19th degree of Virgo at this time. This degree represents a `sensitive point' in that it is the position created by the first exact Uranus-Pluto conjunction of 1965-66. The last of the Saturn-Pluto oppositions--as we can surmise from recent event--augmented significantly the sensitivity of this point.

We know that the epoque of this (Uranus-Pluto) conjunction (and the opposition) was one of great turmoil. China represented the best example of the meaning of these aspects. It was the period of Chairman Mao's Cultural Revolution, and what transpired in China at this time served as a keynote for events which occurred in the world at the time. The first US marines entered the Viet Nam war in March of 1965. Massive protests against the war followed, as well as various social movements, both peaceful and violent, for the rights of blacks and women. Both Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy (in 1968) were assassinated within the orb of these major aspects.

September 11, 1973: The Overthrow and Assassination of Allende

The chart for the death of Salvadore Allende is a powerful one. Sun on the sensitive point at Virgo 19 is reinforced by a transiting Saturn-Pluto square. Saturn, ruler of the Ascendant, is conjunct SN and at the apex of a yod formation with Jupiter sextile Neptune at the base. This apex point is square Pluto on the MC. Allowing rather wide orbs, we can see Pluto at the apex of a second yod formation, with Moon sextile Mars at its base.

Those who use Lillith (the `Black Moon') and Chiron will notice Lillith squaring Pluto and Chiron inconjunt it.

The military's triumphal entry into the inner court of the Presidential Palace takes place just as Pluto is culminating. General Palacio announced to the generals who were monitoring the situation from outside Santiago: "Mission accomplished. Monedo taken. President dead."

This strikes one as a portrait of a patently violent, and evil, moment.

It is generally understood that the CIA was implicated in the coup, and it is widely thought that it was Allende's expropriation of some key industries to support his socialist agenda that infuriated the owners of the industries affected. Allende's program of making sure that school children had the nourishment that they needed to learn properly appeared to be an essential part of his nationalization agenda.

The perennial struggle of Latin American countries with poverty is well known to even the casual student of Latin American history.

The chart has the look of a powerful warning to any other regime that might contemplate such measures.

September 11, 1990: George H. W. Bush's "New World Order" speech to the US Congress

[See http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/papers/1990/90091101.html. The time recorded in this document, which includes the transcript of Bush's speech is 9:19 PM--on September 11, 1990.]

In his speech, which demanded of Saddam Hussein that he withdraw without delay from Kuwait, he declared that "A new partnership of nations has begun" in the wake of the demise of the `East-West' conflict that had reigned during the existence of the Soviet Union. [The Berlin Wall came down on November 9, 1989, the recorded time being 9:00 PM, CET.]

The crisis in the Gulf, Bush said, offered "a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation.": "Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective - a new world order - can emerge: a new era - freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace."

This was his first official use of this expression and of the view of a new post-Soviet world.

It was a vision of a world where nations would cooperate to achieve peace and "A world where the rule of law supplants the rule of the jungle."

Regarding oil, he made clear that one country would not be permitted to control a disproportionate percentage (20%) of the world's oil reserves, and that "soldiers from many nations stand shoulder to shoulder, resolute against Saddam Hussein's ambitions."

In this address, Bush also announced the imposition of sanctions against Iraq, and promised, "Our interest, our involvement in the Gulf is not transitory. It predated Saddam Hussein's aggression and will survive it. Long after all our troops come home - and we all hope it's soon, very soon - there will be a lasting role for the United States in assisting the nations of the Persian Gulf. Our role then: to deter future aggression."

This speech bears re-reading at this time, because many of the current Administration's concerns are anticipated in this speech--but there are also significant differences.

The chart has a number of significant features, indicating the significance of the speech. It is remembered today as a significant moment in US foreign policy.  This moment represents a time of `node reversal': transiting NN is on the SN of the US radix. This, as I understand it, indicates a time of `new associations' which will be of long-term significance in the life of the `native'. Here the administration of Bush Sr. is embarking upon a policy that promises to be of long duration--`as far as the eye can see'.

Capricorn ruling the MC at the moment that the speech began, and Saturn conjunct this point indicate that this is a serious moment: it is a commitment to, and a call for, the undertaking of a great responsibility. The vertex of the chart is conjunct the US Saturn. The obligation--or burden--can be of long duration.

Saturn is in the 19th degree of Capricorn trine the Sun at the sensitive 19 degrees of Virgo. War is in the offing. Yet the Saturn is in the degree of the final Uranus-Neptune conjunction of 1993, indicating, perhaps, the peaceful world of which Bush talks in his speech.

1993 marked the end of Apatheid in South Africa (bringing Nelson Mandela and F. W. De Klerk the Nobel Peace Prize), Bush and Yeltsin's signing of the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, a Palestian-Israeli Peace Agreement, the European Union (based on the Maastricht Treaty) came into being and the World Trade Organization replaced the GATT. Perhaps we are less hopeful now than we might have been regarding some of these developments at the time, but there is a sense here of some parties giving up certain prerogatives in the interests of a greater whole. There may have been a great deal of rhetoric in Bush's historical speech, but he is still conveying a sense of undertaking the responsibilities needed for a peaceful world.

However, Saturn at this sensitive degree (of 19 degrees Capricorn) may indicate that the policy being proposed in this speech may block the achievement of peace as much as it might work toward bringing it to `reality'. Saturn, ruler of Capricorn, disposited the 1993 Uranus-Neptune conjunction. And at the time of the conjunction, Saturn was squared by Pluto, bringing a toughness and harshness to the conjunction that those who habour visions of idylic-peace would not appreciate.

Saturn-Uranus aspects suggest a tension or ease between issues of freedom and restriction. In their highest manifestation, they represent practical inspiration. What does the Neptune at the midpoint of Saturn-Uranus mean in this chart? It certainly complicates this picture, and may import the element of illusion or deception into the mix.

The Uranus-Neptune-Saturn stellium in the 9th house represents the `new philosophy' (9th House) soon to be reflected in a new power structure. The Neptune, trines a retrograde Mercury: those of us who now hear recordings of portions of this speech may question the sincerity of the words spoken, as we might have at the time.

But this is a time of struggle, struggle at home and struggle abroad. The President had his domestic struggles and was asking for unity. He was having to struggle to get the alliance and support that he needed to wage war against Saddam Hussein. He also had to deal with an enemy who set fire to Kuwaiti oil fields when forced to abandon them: Pluto and the Black Moon together in the 7th indicates an enemy that is hard to handle, and may force one to reformulate one's values.

In fact, if we look at this Pluto-Lillith combination closely, we can make some interesting connections.

If one were prone to hypothesizing that the `Clash of Civilizations'  articulated by Samuel Huntington was somehow a resurrection of the of the conflict between liberal democracies and (what Reagan called) `the Evil Empire', we have only to look at the charts for the former Soviet Union [November 8, 1917, 00:12 AM GMT, Leningrad], the chart for the coming down of the Berlin Wall [November 9, 1989, 9:00 PM, CET, Berlin] and the chart for this `New World Order' speech. Pluto in the Berlin Wall chart, in stellium with transiting Mercury, Sun and Lillith, is conjunct the Soviet Union Sun. The Pluto-Lillith in the `New World Order' chart is in this area of 15-17 degrees of Scorpio, in its 7th House. The Pluto-Lillith combination carries the connotation of hidden and disagreeable forces. They both tend to be invisible--Pluto's mythology strongly carries this theme--and are forces that demand transformation.

And in Jungian psychology they represent the `shadow side' of all of us, the side of our nature that we try to `repress'. And, further, according to psychoanalytic theory, we are prone to `project' the `evil' of our `shadows' on another person or party whom we can use as a `hook'.

This 15-17 degree of Scorpio, essentially, influences the 12th House of the US chart [We are using the Sibly Chart, set for July 4, 1776, at 5:13:55 PM EST, in Philadelphia] .

In short, what I am suggesting from a reading of these charts is that the Bush Administrations' arch-enemy(ies) simply represents a substitution of one projected monster for another.

Still there are some positive indications in the chart: Uranus trines Venus in the 5th, indicating, perhaps, surprising alliances in their action. Mars is on the US Uranus and Moon on US Mars, Jupiter conjunct transiting SN, all indicating. Elements favourable to the contemplated action. Fortuna is also conjunct NN.

At least there is imminent collaboration: it may, however, not endure as long as the `obligations' undertaken.

Which 9-11?

If there is a tie between a previous September 11 and that of 2001, it may have been to due the presence of the US military in the Gulf region during the 1991 war. Many have claimed that there were elements--some claiming that Osama bin Laden was among them--who took umbrage at the presence of US forces in Saudi Arabia, and made a `statement' on September 11, 2001. But since we are long from having definitive evidence of who perpetrated the acts of 9-11 and why exactly, we cannot assert, categorically, that there is a relationship of 9-11 with either of the previous events.

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9/11 ( 4.00 / 1 ) (#6)
by LSmerillo (kajamanu@rdn.it) on Tue Mar 25th, 2003 at 04:32:55 EDT
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It may be of historical interest to note that on the 11th day of September 1789 President George Washington appointed Henry Knox as the first Secretary of War of the USA.

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/mgw:@field(DOCID+@lit(wd0552)):

It also seems that the thug-terrorist group Al Qaida, which was responsible for the attacks and murders of 9/11 2001 on New York City and Washington DC, was celebrating an anniversay of their own, one of their foundation moments 10 Sept 1988.

see:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bifladen1.html

But until further information is extracted from the thugs, we will never know exactly what they might have had in mind, or if they were celebrating' anything with their criminal actions.

feliciter,

Lorenzo Smerillo

 



Elder Bush's speech - correction ( 4.00 / 1 ) (#3)
by Axel Harvey on Fri Mar 14th, 2003 at 23:43:47 EDT
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The website referred to by Urpaulo says that "The President spoke at 9:09 p.m. in the House Chamber at the Capitol" on 11 September 1990 - not at 9:19 p.m.

For the Capitol I have 38n53.4 77w 0.6 - presumably close to the central dome. It is a large building and the House chamber may be different from these coordinates by one or two tenths of a minute, but I don't have the information handy. The angles are: MC 19cp25.7, AS 3ta49.6, VX 14lb53.4.

Charybdis (the mean Dark Moon reduced to the zodiacal plane) will cross 3ta49.6 around 20 hours UT on Sunday, 16 March 2003. At the Capitol in Washington Venus will be on the Descendant, Mars on the Vertex, and the Moon will be in Virgo applying to a trine of Charybdis within 8' applying. I suspect it just means more of the same: the "enemy" attempting another Venusian measure of mollification (or for those who use Venus as ruler of Taurus it might mean one protagonist in the other's house - but that's ambiguous); the proactive side continuing to act on its intention (Vertex) of waging war.



one more 9-11 ( 4.00 / 1 ) (#1)
by Lenore on Wed Mar 5th, 2003 at 14:30:38 EDT
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On 11 September 2002, it was reported that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was killed in a raid in Karachi. Certainly, the photograph of the man currently in custody bears no resemblance to previous photographs we have seen.

Pluto is now at 19 Sagittarius square the 9-11 Sun and activating the solar eclipse of 10 June, the moon of the GWB inauguration, GWB's Uranus, Iraq's Moon and sesquaring Israel's MC. Unfortunately, it also activates John Ashcroft's (9 May 1942 in Chicago) MA/SA so while there is a lot to learn, there will be a lot that is surpressed.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/DJ30Df01.
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